Letter: Bridge Tolls Will Drive Stake Through Heart of East Bay Economy
A Letter to the Editor from Bristol's Chuck Millard regarding the recent proposed tolls on the Sakonnet River Bridge.
Governor Chafee and the DOT are about to drive a stake through the heart of the East Bay economy.
Make no mistake about it if they succeed in setting up tolls on the Sakonnet River Bridge potential visitors from South Eastern MA and Tiverton will change their shopping patterns. Impulse visits to our community will drop off precipitously.
Tourists are not going to shell out $8.00 to have an ice cream at the Daily Scoop and stroll through our shops. They are not going to 'hop over to the Pot' for drinks or get a bite at Roberto's. Visitors from MA will not be able to buy the discounted transponders and will have to pay the full freight. Our museums will suffer. Who is going to pile their family in the car and come to Bristol for a hike around Mount Hope Farm and lunch in town when there's an $8.00 toll surcharge on top of $5.00 gas!
Rhode Island is a series of peninsulas and islands with 400 miles of coastline connected by a highway system that by necessity includes bridges. Singling us out for living on the East Bay makes as much sense as placing a surcharge on the residents of Foster and Gloster to pay for the inordinate amount of snow removal required in the northern kingdom.We need to forcefully make the point that infrastructure is a shared burden that should be carried evenly.
Our Representatives and Senators are actively fighting this train wreck. We need to let them know that the troops are behind them.
Charles Millard, Bristol
Vicky White
7:05 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I agree Chuck, we shouldn't be penalized for living in waterway communities. Paying high prices for travel before you actually get to your Destination is prohibitive and counterproductive. The high price of gas already takes food off the table for many. Imagine the day trippers who can't afford a vacation being victimized by even more fees so they can spend more and do less with their families. Governor Chafee not only drives a stake through the local local economy, but his dwindling chances of re-election will be an even higher price to pay for overloading the backs of taxpayers-continiously.
Paul Mancieri
7:49 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Kudos Chuck. This toll business does nothing but tax locals. We are talking about in state bridges that are mainly traveled by Rhode Islanders (dare I say over 75%), to put a toll up and now ask locals to pay what essentially amounts to a new tax is above and beyond what is reasonable. Not once in this discussion have I seen even one iota of a discussion about cutting expenses or the consideration of removing the toll authority to reduce the tax burden in the area. This is more of the same from a state that has shown a propensity for taking care of the few at the cost of the many.
Robert Smith
7:53 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I agree 100%. Also, you might add the traffic this would cause from people using rte's 114 and 136 as well as 103 which would be absolutely drenched in traffic from a move such as this. It's already crazy during the summer months on those roads, just think of how bad it would be if this was approved.
Manifold Witness
7:54 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Excellent points.
Especially: "infrastructure is a shared burden that should be carried evenly".
Many RI roads and bridges are in bad shape. There's no money in operating budgets for repairs because most of the money now gets sucked out into salaries & benefits.
Bonds may not be the option they were in the past because bonds require buyers and the RI ratings aren't exactly reassuring. Also, bonds are not "free money" for the taxpayers.
Federal money isn't "free", either. It's all taxes.
So will the state now enact tolls in an attempt to raise the money to fix roads & bridges?
Will there be toll roads all over the state?
Will there be tolls on the roads in and out of South Providence?
Maybe on Atwells Avenue into Federal Hill?
Or is it just an additional tax on those who need to use certain bridges?
Pat
9:49 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I agree with Chuch 100% - the governor is not thinking straight and wants to put more taxes/tolls on us who live in the East Bay and Aquidneck Island. Many Bristolians work on the island and over in Tiverton and you want to put more on their shoulders with a toll - need to get rid of some of our state people (governor) for even thinking of this. The DOT should be on top of the bridges and stay within their budget - not transfer the bridges to another authority. We all have to live on a budget especially the retired people who can't really afford a vacation away and may want to go to the Cape and you're going to make them go over the Braga bridge instead of the Mt. Hope & Sakonnet bridges to make travel easier because you want tolls. Take a cut in pay governor - see if you can live on what some people are living on. Remember all this people when voting in November.
3 All the Way
10:00 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I must agree with, tolls will hurt our local businesses. By exempting the tolls, more tax money from everyone in the state would help support any and all repairs to our bridges. By not tolling, the cost of repairs and maintanence will be divided equally by every tax payer in Rhode Island, not just those who use it. I personally feel this should be a cost paid for by the entire tax base of RI, not just its local users.
Antonio A Teixeira
10:29 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I am not agreeing or disagreeing with tolls, however we need to entertain the cost of maintaining the bridges. How will that be done? Who will oversee the maintenance of the bridges? Where will the funding come from? Let's not kick the can down the road and pass it on to our children and grandchildren and disclaim responsibility - we have too much of that now. As the saying goes "pay me know or pay later @ a much higher price" - just look the Sakonnet Bridge, Barrigton and Warren Bridges and so on. What are the options?
Robert E
10:54 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
The money was supposed to come from the gas tax but insted of using the money for road and bridge repairs the politicians stole it and put it in the general fund and left DOT uderfunded. Now they want to replace the money they stole with a toll on the bridges in Newport County untill they nned money for some pet project then they will steal the toll money and then they will have to institute a new tax to replace the lost toll revenue. The Governer and the rest of the State does not care about Newport County they just see us as a money tree.
dave
11:37 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I am shocked, the great, retired, lifetime public servant not taking a side as a town councilor. With all the questions, obviously you have studied the issue and have one answer: more taxes, tolls, fees and no spending cuts. I know, again like all taxes, "it's for the children". Gee I wonder where the former teacher "learned" this tactic.
Bill G
11:51 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Whatever happened to the idea of putting a toll on the CT/RI Line on Rte 95? How many NY, NJ and CT cars pass through RI on their way to the Cape every summer with nary a wink towards, as the NY Times called us, "the smudge spot on the way to the Cape"?
3 All the Way
12:45 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Dave, In response to your negative comments on Mr Teixeira's post, you have never, ever attended or watched him on the Bristol Town Council. If you have, you certainly haven't paid attention. Mr Teixeira asks "All The Right Questions". He inspects what he expects. During the budget process, he, in my opinion, served the townspeople well with his insight and logic during those budget hearings.
So good try on the "cheap Shot" at him. The people of Bristol know Mr. Teixeira much better than you do. Look at the votes he collected last election season.
Jerry Squatrito
1:11 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Robert E was right on!. When traveling to/from Florida on Interstate 95, there is a maze of tolls. The gasoline tax was supposed to fund the Federal and local governments with revenues to support the maintenance of these roads. Before we talk about the who should be managing the maintenance issues, we need an accounting of the revenue taken in by the gasoline tax and how it is managed and apportioned. If every state and city/town places tolls (and the money is being utilized by other programs), then tolls will create many more problems than they will solve. LETS SEE WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING BEFORE WE PROPOSE MORE TOLLS.
Susan
10:42 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I totally agree with Chiuck...find another way to generate revenue other than sticking it to the East Bay residents. We just succeeded in stopping LNG from destroying our economy, after a five year fight, and now we face this destructive ploy created by our own State of Rhode Island. Shameful. If you have to tax people, do it across the state so we all pay our fair share. Don't single out the East Bay and the commuters and residents who live, shop and work here.
Susan Maloney, Bristol
Rhody
11:21 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I am simply amazed by people who think that maintaining bridges in our state should be borne by those who never use them. Comapring it to the cost of snow removal in Foster? Give me a break. That is an apples : oranges comparison and you know, Chuck. Also, not for nothing, but people who frequent The Lobster Pot and/or Roberto's aren't going to bristle at the notion of a toll that'll likely be no more than $1.00 each way with an EZ Pass. Finally, before you attack me for being one who doesn't use the bridges on Aquidneck Island, I use them nearly every single day. It's time people in this country stop acting like everything should be free. We all chose to live close to the water, which requires travel via bridges. These bridges are costly to maintain ...much more so than standard roads and highways.
Susan
11:40 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Rhody, in a fragile economy such as ours in Rhode Island, we should do everything possible to protect our local towns and economy. A fair tax would be one that we all share and no single community/area suffers. Bridge tolls would kill the East Bay.
Rhody
12:21 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Susan, I would disagree. I think the most equitable solution is one of a user-based fee. Did the tolls on the Newport Bridge kill that area? I certainly don't think so.
Robert E
1:31 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Rhody you have totalily missed the point I am paying for maintence on all the bridges in the state even the ones I don't use plus you wnt me to pay an extra fee for the ones in Newport County a fee that the users of the rest of the bridges in the state don't pay. If you want to put a toll on every bridge in the state so that the users pay for them fine but you are asking the people of Newport County to pay for their bridges plus the bridges in the rest of the state also that is not fair. toll all bridges or toll none.
DownTown
10:55 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Well Rhody you should be against the tolls on the Sakonnet then and here is why:
Bridges built by the DOT with Federal funds have never had tolls a good example is the new Jamestown bridge (which ironically was built with $185 million in Federal funds that were earmarked for East Bat transportation upgrades that area residents fought against and won unfortunately ) so the DOT plans to sell the new Sakonnet to RIBTA who will sell bonds to pay the DOT. Here is the kicker, the DOT will use those funds to repair the 600+ bridges in other parts of the state which NO ONE from the Easy Bay has ever heard off never mind used.
The Newport was built with Bonds issued by RIBTA. The Mt Hope was bought by the State who years later created RIBTA and transferred ownership to RIBTA
So not only will the East Bay pay their way through these tolls, in essence we will be paying the way to repair bridges all over the State.
Check your facts before you post - the only people gaining from the tolls on the Sakonnet live outside the East Bay area.
Rhody
10:16 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012
DT, please point me to where you're getting this information from:
"...the DOT plans to sell the new Sakonnet to RIBTA who will sell bonds to pay the DOT. Here is the kicker, the DOT will use those funds to repair the 600+ bridges in other parts of the state which NO ONE from the Easy Bay has ever heard off never mind used."
I can't find an article stating that anywhere. Thanks. Also, take it easy with the "check your facts before you post" bit. It's comments such as those that make these comment sections turn into nasty personal attacks where no meaningful discourse takes place.
DownTown
12:26 pm on Thursday, April 26, 2012
That came directly from Michael Lewis the head of the DOT. Ir was in the Journal last year and it was online at Projo.com.
When they switched to ProvidenceJournal.com the archives disappeared online and even when they are online it clicking on anything from projo.com in search results just goes to the main providencejournal.com.
Charles Millard
12:33 pm on Thursday, April 26, 2012
Rhody,
Not for nothing, if one is a Mass. resident one cannot get a RI transponder and will pay the full freight to patronize our shops and restaurants.
DownTown
2:47 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Rhody, this letter to the editor refers to the article that I referred to "Sakonnet tolls could help maintain bridges".
Regarding the March 8 article "Sakonnet tolls could help maintain bridges": Could one of The Journal's excellent investigative reporters find out where the 33 cents-per-gallon Rhode Island gasoline tax goes?
Wasn't that supposed to be used for maintaining roads and transportation infrastructure?
http://news.providencejournal.com/letters-to-the-editor/2012/03/susan-r-berge-arent-we-already-paying.html
DownTown
9:53 pm on Tuesday, May 1, 2012
The idea originated with Carcieri and Michael Lewis is on board with it.
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2011/02/history-for-wednesday-feb-2-20.html
Governor Carcieri proposes a toll on the new Sakonnet River Bridge just like the one on the Pell Bridge over Newport Harbor, $4 each way or 83 cents for Rhode Island residents with EZPass. Commuters would not see the toll until 2012 at the earliest, after completion of the new span, now under construction. The toll hinges on a proposal to sell the $164-million bridge to the Rhode Island Turnpike and Bridge Authority, which would turn over nearly 70 percent of its collections to the state until it has repaid the state's cost for the span, which is expected to take 20 years. The Authority would get more revenue out of the deal than if it reinstated a toll on the Mount Hope Bridge, according to state transportation officials. The state would use its share of the toll money, an estimated $156.6 million in the first 10 years, to make a dent in much-needed repairs on 164 bridges.
Jack Baillargeron
11:22 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Let’s see, how about a few things that should have been done decades ago, Like start cutting entitlements programs, I find it strange that people are leaving the state, yet no cuts? Would not services be decreasing also?
We quit buying open space land, I mean really if the infrastructure is destroyed, you can’t get to where the pretty views are, now can you? So why buy it?
We quit these block grant gambles on Businesses that provide low paying jobs. Wow a revelation.
A “LOCK BOX” for bridge repair period. Lol (sorry that always cracks me up).
The State actually does what it says it will do, for once. Lol (sorry that always cracks me up also).
How about the State balances a budget for once? If they cannot then the whole legislature resigns and leaves the State. (The public will supply the tar and feathers). (Not a joke).
No ear marks for any community. Let’s face it you guys are worse then Washington most of the time.
Sell Central fall to a private company? Lets face it they can’t do worse then the State has since 1993.
How about we Start Taxing Colleges and Churches, yes. Churches should tell the IRS to shove it, and pay taxes they can then become a political power. The only reason they are tax exempt, so they do not participate in politics. About time they do considering the Cowards who won’t stick up for destruction of Freedom of Religion, not Freedom from Religion in society lately. Funny; non-Christian has to say this ;-{
Bill G
11:52 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Whatever happened to the idea of putting a toll on the CT/RI Line on Rte 95? How many NY, NJ and CT cars pass through RI on their way to the Cape every summer with nary a wink towards, as the NY Times called us, "the smudge spot on the way to the Cape"?
Rhody
12:17 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Bill, that needs federal approval and I don't think it's likely to come considering that stretch of highway is not new and already paid for.
DownTown
5:50 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
As of right now they are only allowing tolls to pay for building new federal highways so that's not happening. They handed out three permissions recently in Virginia, Missouri and one other state all for new highways.
Rte-24 is not a Federal highway because the curves don't meet their standards.
Other roads they could hit because they are state would be 146 or 6 in Providence.
Pirate Mommy
4:07 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I wish I never voted for Chaffee...I am looking forward to the next election so I can vote him out! Yeah! Such a big dissapointment to Rhode Islanders. He is so clueless and never has to bite the bullet when it comes to money like all the rest of us. The reality of the situation is that most of the state is unemployed and struggling with poverty and any additional tax will devastate everyone. I pray that no one gets any bright ideas and erect a statue of him in Colt State Park! Too bad he can't live up to his father's legacy. Such a bummer...yet another bill the we will have to shoulder. How about taxing the yatchs the state could use the revenue!
Keith
6:22 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
We should put tolls on all RI bridges! If we drivers/commuters/day-trippers choose to USE a bridge for whatever purpose, we should pay for it! What's unfair about that? If those who "benefit" from the bridge (remember, the bridge makes it POSSIBLE for someone in Bristol to go to Newport and vice-versa) don't pay to maintain it, who should? Or we can ignore bridge maintainance altogether and deceive ourselves and each other into believing the bridges is free.
Robert E
6:42 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Keith we are already paying for them the state wants us to pay twice once when we buy gas and pay taxes and now again whaen we pay the toll. the state is still going to take our tax dollars even when there is a toll. Get rid of the gas tax and toll all bridges and roads or keep the tax and end tolls I don't want to pay twice to a state that has no clue what a budget is.
Bear401
6:26 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
This state is Always coming up with new & creative ways & creating & increasing new & existing fees & taxes to generate more money they say they need for raods & bridges or whatever. The problem is they never spend it on those things. They hijack/steal it. The Lottery was created to fund the school budgets for cities & towns but the state hijacked that & used it to increase an already top heavy bureaucracy by creating more departments & more management positions on every level for politically connected cronies. For decades the state put their greedy corrupt fingers into the pension fund from their employees who put it there & used it to give huge pensions to many people who weren't part of that system & second pensions to another group of cronies who didn't fully contribute to get that second one. Last year during a Finanace Committee hearing it was uncovered that the state was taking the money from the $7.00 saltwater fishing license & used it to create a few more management positions & purchase a few more vehicles. And someone earlier mentioned the gas tax which was increased under Carcieri. These are only a small selection of examples of the siphoning/stealing/hyjacking of money that this stare has done & used it for something other than what it was intended. Now it is all coming back to bite them you know where. If any of this was done in the private sector that this state likes to compare everything to those employers would be in the penitentiary right now.
Bear401
6:31 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Sorry for my atrocious spelling. It happens when my fingers can't keep up with what I'm thinking. I only type with two. If one gets injured I'm screwed
Lynn Shaw
10:19 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
I will fight against this 100%. Why don't we have tolls on 95?? You pay a toll at the NY line and Mass Turnpike, why don't we let the rest of RI share the cost...
DownTown
11:18 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Aquidneck County and Bristol County are losing millions and millions of school funding from the state. Every community except Barrington (whose residents spearheaded the fight against I-895 sending the $185 million to the Jamestown bridge).
When was the last time the State paved 114 before this ongoing boondoggle there now? 15 years? 20 years? How about East and West Main roads?
The West Bay has State subsidies for their area in the form of State spending on Quonset Point (bonds issued by the state for Quonset that the State has been paying back not Quonset), enormous $$$ updates to the road infrastructure in the West Bay and finally about $70 million a year that goes to the area through the State to URI instead of directly to students.
Oh wait you must have read about the new $28 million dollar Train Station there? We used to have train tracks here but we got a bike path that joggers must not realize exists because they jog on Hope Street. Think about that as you wait for the bus to Providence and then lug your luggage to the Train station from Kennedy Plaza.
The State hands Central Falls $40+ million a year for just 19 thousand people as we've been paying 100% of their school costs.. While the rest of the State municipalities raised property taxes on average over the last 20 years by 134% Central Falls has raised taxes just 23%.
We must pay our way while the rest of the state gets numerous tax subsidies.
Bear401
4:39 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012
How about the state fixing/installing sidewalks from Poppasquash Rd into Warren? They are deplorable. Severely cracked & lifted from tree roots & in some places so crumbled they have been turned into nothing more than gravel & nonexistent in other areas. The state must pay $40 million just in interest for the billions it has had to borrow for projects because they siphoned money away, like the gas tax, etc from where it was intended. Do any of us really expect anything else from the most corrupt crony infested state in the country?
DownTown
8:18 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012
That's a great example - the sidewalks. A young man was killed walking in the road near Rockwell school what a year ago? If the sidewalk was in decent shape he'd have been walking on it and still be alive today. The last time hat sidewalk was repaired was never and it was probably put in before WW2.
The State loaned Curt Schilling's company $75 million to come to the State and he located the new offices in Providence. They were in Maynard, MA in the old DEC complex. You couldn't imagine two more opposite locations. Maynard is rural with unlimited parking and Providence is city with no parking. .
Regardless the State could have thrown a couple of million to fix up the old US Rubber.Kaiser complex and that type of company could move in there.
I can't name one multi million dollar project that the State has spearheaded in the East Bay.
We are being taxed to death having to pay by use for the bridges while the rest of the state feeds off of us.
If the State broke out taxes paid in versus State money spent per municipality here this would be so clear that outrage would rise up here.
Charles Millard
12:26 pm on Thursday, April 26, 2012
Here's food for thought from the Bridge Authority's own web site:
"No tax dollars, federal, state, or local, are received by the Authority for debt service or expenses incurred in the operation and maintenance of the bridges and associated buildings and grounds. Rather, all obligations are satisfied with funds received in the form of toll revenue and investment income."
Has any other State been so incompetent as to set up an entity that is NOT eligible for federal funding for bridge repairs!!! Let me reiterate. Only bridges run by the Turnpike Authority are NOT eligible. If the Turnpike Authority were a division of DOT we would be eligible for federal highway funding for The Newport Bridge and the Mount Hope Bridge. The minute we turn the Sakonnet River Bridge over to the Turnpike Authority and they place a toll on it we are out of luck and on our own. Our federal tax dollars will fix bridges in Idaho but not R.I.!!!
Chuck Millard
DownTown
10:09 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Charles that's a great take on this.
Charles Millard
12:55 pm on Thursday, April 26, 2012
Here's some more tidbits from the RITBA web site. The Organizational Chart list 45 employees including 9 customer service representatives! Sounds like Lands End. Has anyone checked out the Taj Mahal under construction at the toll plaza in Jamestown. Not a word on their website about what it is or what it cost.
Lets face it the Bridge Authority was created in 1954 as a creative way to fund bridges. That was long before the Federal Highway Administration was created to build and support highways throughout the country. Today its a dinosaur whose sole purpose is to provide jobs for favored workers. we need to get behind Representaive Morrison's legislation making it a division of DOT.
Chuck Millard
John Coccio
8:35 pm on Thursday, April 26, 2012
Chuck, I have emailed Sen Ottiano about an idea and have floated it here as a way to eliminate tolls, AND roll back the gas tax to 5 cents a gallon.
AGAIN, in this day and age with more efficient cars on the road (lets not forget that by 2025, just 13 SHORT years from now cars will be required to average 54.5 MPG). More efficient=less gas, and less gas = less money for road repairs. We MUST dedicate revenues from driving to repair the roads we travel on. Criticizing RIBTA for doing it's job (actually using the mo nies it collects to repair the bridges it is in charge of) does no good The $17-18 million they collect is a pittance compared to the $7 billion state budget.
Replace the tolls, gas tax, and muni. excise tax with a tax based on the mileage driven each yr. Odometer readings are recorded at each inspection, and that can be used to determine the amount owed. Yes, I know not all miles are driven in RI by our cars, so I'm sure we can determine what the average car drives in state, and base the tax on that percentage. Cities and towns can collect the tax (just like the excise tax), keep a certain % for themselves for local road upkeep and pass the rest on to the state . High mileage drivers and fleets can choose to pay a flat fee per car to keep their bill down.
DownTown
5:59 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
John you cannot tax someone from RI for driving out of state.
This idea of yours has been floated at the Federal level and shot down because every car would have to have a GPS in it dedicated to that purpose.
The expense and the privacy issue have put the idea into the trash. The idea has been around for a long time.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42919365/ns/politics-more_politics/t/pay-mile-timely-tax-idea-or-privacy-threat/#.T5sV6-HcTbU
This just isn't going to happen.
Also RIPTA gets one third of the gas tax in RI so people who buy a car, pay the taxes and pay for insurance and gas are also subsidizing RIPTA. If it's so little state money they receive they should just generate it through ticket prices instead.
John Coccio
6:09 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
Again, I said you do it through the inspection system. The odometer reading is recorded every time you inspect the car. I'm sure we can find a study as to the average intra-state mileage driven and tax at a rate accordingly.
DownTown
6:15 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
You can't prove that those miles driven were driven in Rhode Island. That law wouldn't last 2 months before it was thrown out.
Rhode Island has no authority to tax anyone for miles driven out of state.
John Coccio
7:13 am on Monday, April 30, 2012
I would say they do. State law "requires" you to make up the difference for sales tax. For instance, if you bought a $700 dollar laptop in NH, you are "required" to report this purchase and pay the $49 sales tax. (Not that anybody would be foolish enough to report it) Nevertheless, it is law. You buy a car in Mass, you pay RI sales tax.
BTW I have it on good authority from a member of the house that it is at least being discussed as an alternative.
DownTown
5:22 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
I can see where requiring you to make up the difference but I buy my gas in Massachusetts because their gas tax is 8 cents less than in RI.
So now I have paid the gas tax in MA and you want to charge me based on a guess as to how many mile you think I have driven in RI?
So you would be obliged to credit me for the tax I paid in Massachusetts to pay a tax on miles driven in RI that you can't prove I drove.
Good luck with that hair brained scheme.
John Coccio
7:57 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Hey Mr Sunshine, did you miss the part where I said that we would roll the gas tax here DOWN from 24.5 cpg to FIVE cpg???? That would make your 8 cpg "cheaper" Mass gas 11 cents MORE EXPENSIVE!!!!! Instead of whining and crying about the situation here I suggest you come up with something better or MOVE THE HELL TO MASS where the sun seems to always shine in your eyes.
DownTown
10:13 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
Just to add that using an average intrastate mileage would be akin to taxing income based on average earnings.
You can't tax individuals based on a guess.
Bob Venice
7:10 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
I can understand the reason that citizens of Bristol would be concerned with tolls on the Sakonet Bridge. But do not use the term East Bay. The tolls will not kill Warren. The Town is already dead, and you can not kill something twice. As to the Mt Hope Bridge, maybe the state can issue free passes for certain hours for the people who work on the other side. This would make it fair for everone.
DownTown
6:40 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
The added traffic may hurt Warren though. When I use the term Easy Bay I'm including parts of Newport County.
John Coccio
8:19 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Want a toll "booth"? Lower the fuel tax to 5 cpg on diesel and put a service center in on 95 N and S near rt 138. Watch the trucks pull in and pay their $5-7 "toll" by fueling up here instead of elsewhere.
John Coccio
7:01 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/03/new-cafe-rules-and-a-stagnant-gas-tax-mean-big-deficits-for-infr/#continued
More proof a mileage tax makes sense.
The Federal Highway trust fund has taken in more than it has spent only ONCE in the last 11 yrs.