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Warren Council Seeks Equality on Joint Finance Committee

The Warren Town Council approved the FY13 budget with level funding to the school district and made a motion to explore options to change the current Joint Finance Committee legislation.

 

On Tuesday evening, the Warren Town Council approved the FY13 town budget and made a motion to look into changing current legislation that dictates the amount of power of the town of Warren has in votes made on the Joint Finance Committee.

"We want to design a baseline change to the enabling legislation to either give us one more vote or at lease change the complexity of the three votes that we have," said Council President Chris Stanley.

Stanley said he hopes that by pushing for a change in the legislation, the members of the Joint Finance Committee can come to "a real compromise as opposed to a split 6/3 vote down town lines."

According to the current legislation, the Joint Finance Committee is comprised of nine voting members appointed by the Town Councils of Bristol and Warren "in proportion to their respective populations as recorded in the most recent federal census."

"It's just terrible... because of the make up, it's pitting these two towns against each other, it really makes me sick," said Council Vice President David Frerichs "We should not be fighting between these two towns, we should be working together for the benefit of our kids."

Members of the council unanimously approved the motion to begin researching the town's options and also approved the FY13 budget which would level fund the school district. A final public hearing on the overall town budget will be held on April 30 at 7 pm at Town Hall. Moving forward, the Council plans to meet with local legislators in the coming months to work on making changes the current legislation.

Follow the links below to catch up on some of our related stories and coverage of the Warren Town Budget and Joint Finance Committee Meetings.

Related Topics: Bristol-Warren Regional School District, Warren Town Budget 2012, and joint finance committee

Manifold Witness

8:26 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

So the Warren Town Council wants more votes than their relative population would warrant?

Why?

So they can vote to pay less than the Warren fair share of the expenses to educate the Warren children?

Who does the Warren Town Council think should pay to educate the Warren children?

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Transplant

5:36 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012

So one town in a two-town district gets to make all the decisions? One town can vote to give the school district whatever they want, no questions asked, ("It's for the children!" Yeah, sure it is.) and the other town just has to bend over and take it?

I bet I know which one you live in.

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John Smythe

11:39 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Manifold,

Look at Foster-Glocester, Dighton-Rehoboth and Chariho school districts. Each town has equal votes. Look at the US Senate. It's not about population, it's about equity.

Bristol is getting bamboozled by the school district, and submitting due to guilt. The max they can ask for (each year) is 4%, so they ask for it each year, out of greed, without doing any math. It's time for towns and school districts to operate like real businesses, respecting the value of money. Warren is actually being responsible. Kudos to their town council standing tall.

75% of this money is going to teachers' salaries, so its not even being passed onto a child's education. With our money, it's not like they're bringing in recent Brown grads with innovative teaching methods for our children, they're just continuing to overpay for RIC and URI grads who were mediocre students themselves.

BOB I

5:36 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012

bristol should not be setting warrens tax rateput the jcc on a diet.

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DownTown

10:27 am on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Interesting to note that Warren will qualify as a distressed community under Chafee's municipal relief bill but Bristol will not qualify. Since the schools are bound together that may not work out very easily.

Warren would also most likely receive more aid by themselves under the school funding formula as opposed to Warren-Bristol.

Without the temporary extra funding from regionalizing the schools there is no incentive for being joined at the hip any more.

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marina peterson

12:19 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Am I correct in learning that alternatives proposed by Bristol are that they may sue Warren for the funds, or to look into disbanding the school system?
Would it not make more sense to have equal voting which would encourage compromise?

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DownTown

12:32 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Not for Warren it doesn't.

The school system funding here is in part based on community finances. Warren loses by being apart of the same system as Bristol because it means less aid from the state per student in the long haul. In the short haul Warren may be better off till the phase out of the extra regional funding is complete.

This situation hasn't come up before because the school system was awash in additional State aid. Everything was just fine till the gravy train came to a halt.

I wonder if the school system here has fully exhausted their surplus? They had an extra million or so hanging around a couple of years ago but didn't want to spend it.

3 All the Way

12:24 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

When we combined the 2 school systems, it was to ease the burden for the town of Warren. Warren did agree to ALL the stipulations of running this school system. Now, because of poor fiscal planning by Warrens Town Councils since the merger, they do not want to pay their fair share. That is fine. I suggest we break the merger and let both towns pay for their own education.
Great Job to Bristol's town Fathers/Mothers who have been very keen in keeping our towns finances in order.

So Mr Stanley, if you don't like how the vote went sorry, but you remember what the deal has always been.

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DownTown

1:03 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

The schools were merged together in order to get temporary additional State funding which was to be used to lower long term costs.

That money is being removed in phases over 10 years. This fiscal year the state has cut about $800,000 in funding. Next year they will cut $1.6 million. The year after that $2.3 million and so on till in the last year $8 million is cut. This was supposed to be a larger cut but our state reps were able to get some money returned for busing expenses.

The funding is now calculated according to a formula. That formula would favor Warren as a stand alone community as opposed to being looked at in combination with Bristol.

Warrenite by choice?

12:48 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Cribble the town of Warren...according to today's Warren Times the increase is 21 cents per thousand. So a house valuded at $300K is looking at an additional $63 in annual taxes. Really? That would cripple the town? $5.25/month would cripple the town? It is an investment in maintaining our property values!

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DownTown

12:57 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Turning that argument around:

It would cripple the schools to go without?

Warrenite by choice?

1:22 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Schools already cut 10% before going to JFC, cut 24% of teaching staff, 22% of all other staff, no raises in 2 years, highest insurance coshare for ALL staff, not just new hires, and continue to excel in the educational outcomes. The schools are going without...state thinks we can handle more! Let's put our outrage where it belongs - the federal government reduced aid to states and towns by nearly 70% over the past few years. In turn, the state government has reduced aid to towns by the same. Let's hold the proper culpret accountable...

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DownTown

1:39 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

There are 399 less students than there were in 2000. Layoffs were warranted.

How many of these 'certified staff' were actually teachers?

Antonio A Teixeira

1:26 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Mr. John Smythe - I am not sure, if I know you - the fact is - you are very insulting to my past and present colleagues who are teaching.
I am proud to have been a member of the Bristol Warren Regional School system for 31 years and I take pride in my association with my colleagues regardless of where they may have graduated from.
I can tell you that we have been able to sustain an educational system to be ranked 4th in OUR State of RI. Let's not use scores alone but ALL programs offered to ALL students regardless of community. Many systems have visited our schools to emulate what we provide.
As for the finances and community representation, I'll leave that to be addressed at a different forum.

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Bob Venice

8:11 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

It seems to me that 21 cents per thousand is not something we should worry about if this amount would end the battle of the Towns as to the School Department, its the fact that the School Comittee with 6 votes from Bristol and only 3 from Warren is the problem. Without an equel vote how much will Bristol want next year. Warren, is doing the right thing by refussing to pay. With no jobs, and people losing their houses, and the town looking worse then ever, Warren must take back it's Schools and and lower the budjet. Sorry Bristol, but you just to much money to keep ties with us poor people.

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