Exellent post, and right on target. Agree with everything you said.

"Chicago’s budget deficit is estimated at $587 million, and the city owes nearly $600 million in pension obligations. The hole is expected to grow next year . "
Yea he can afford to send business away

I agree he may be a bigot, But i would eal there at least once, since i have never been to one ;-}. As for never eating there if I liked it, I disagree with boycotts of chain food reasturants or any companies that do it by francise, most are local owners and neighbors and I do not think it fair to penalize them for the beliefs of their bosses or owners of the comapany.

I think this boycotting has gotten out of hand on social issues anyway. Just my opinion though.

Already happened a few times now, it was same as any other to my recollection. Though last year or the year before a couple tried it in RI, but they were married in MA, so it was not reconized at the time by RI. Don't remember what happened. Think they had to move back to MA to do it.

. In many Protestant regions, authorities forbade impoverished individuals from marrying at all. And Protestant officials often stepped in to dissolve marriages that had been made without parental consent, even if both parties were adult and children had already been born to their union. Most of the "traditions" we associate with marriage are in fact comparatively new. It was only two centuries ago that people began to marry for love rather than for mercenary or practical considerations. Only 130 years ago did men start to lose their legal right to physically beat or imprison their wives. And only in the past 40 years have we established the principle that within a marriage wives and husbands have equal rights in decision-making. Not until 1979 did the last American state finally repeal its "Head and Master" law, which had given husbands the final say over many aspects of family life. Not until 1993 did marital rape become a crime in every state, overturning the millennia-old tradition that a wife was obligated to have sex with her husband whenever he demanded it. Trying to revert to antiquated and unfair traditions is not the answer. We need to figure out how to build on the opportunities and minimize the risks associated with the ongoing modernization of marriage. It helps no one to wage futile culture wars to return to a tradition that wasn't half as clear-cut or advantageous as many people believe.

Robert E, I agree with NKGOP... that is great stuff. Good research on your part for sure.

As you can see from one of my past blogs (http://bristol-warren.patch.com/blog_posts/ask-a-conservative-social-issues), I am for same-sex marriage but I have to say...

While all of those things have changed over the past thousand years... what aspect of marriage has stayed the same through out, not only that time, but for 1000s of years before? It's that the marriages were made of people of opposite sex.

And even though I am not against allowing same-sex marriage, the above is the reason why most people are against it, not some anti-gay bigotry or religious mandate.

I think a lot of the LGBT push-back on the religious side is because a lot of the fight against them is based on peoples religious beliefs. You're right, it should be a civil benefits issue, but that's not where the intolerance comes from.

If your dog is biting the mailman's leg, the mailman doesn't necessarily debate with you about his legal right to get to your mailbox unencumbered .. he's going to complain about the dog biting him.

You right Ray. The tolarence issue has a lot to do with it, and it should not. Both sides merely antaganize the other. The politicins love this, because it makes for a football to use for votes. Sad people are that petty to vote on one issue also. But sadly many do.

It also is what causes the delays in doing the right thing, which in my opinion would happen, if they just focus on the benefit issue, which in the end is the only argument anyway to me.

US postal laws govern the box being a certain size and accesible or you get no mail, dogs in most states must be under control of the owner at all times. I think he or she would be spraying the dog with mace, they still carry it ;-}. Though it would be something to see a mailman debate with a dog lol.

Depends on your own definition of marriage, but it has to be before the 14 century.

Merrium/Webster
Origin of MARRIAGE
Middle English mariage, from Anglo-French, from marier to marry
First Known Use: 14th century

It would also depend upon your belief system, i.e. Evolution, people desided to join together as man and woman. or religious beliefs, Christian being God joined Adam and Eve. In the end it is still merely a fight over having the same rights, that a state license to marry gives people.

Nope it should not matter in 2012, not should it be a political issue especially like it has become, due to special interest groups, who seem to love dividing this country on both sides. Which as usual is why the independents will decide the election and this issue in the end. well eventually anyway ;-}

Marriage was a staple of society in Ancient Rome. Not religious, although it might be "blessed" by a particular temple or priest. Marriage was primarily for political or wealth reasons. A sizable dowry was typical and the man often gained control of the woman's family businesses or finances.

LOL about as simple as it gets lol

If people are boycotting Ben & Jerry's (or Chic-Fil-A) that's there prerogative. I find it a little ridiculous though considering what is really happening here. Calling the organizations Cathy donates money to "hate groups" is extreme. They promote traditional marriage. They're not calling for the execution of homosexuals or even saying homosexuals are bad people. They simply believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. I personally disagree and believe marriage should be permitting between any adults.

Who is really being hurt by the protests and boycotts? Not Mr. Cathy, he has a great deal of money. Those hurt are the people who own the franchise and the people working at the counter and cooking the food.

If your convictions are so strong that you'd change carries I give you a lot of credit. Presumably you're in a contract and breaking that contract would either result in inordinate terminate fees or a blemish on your credit report. It's also likely you'd have to purchase a new phone, another often costly expense. I'm with my cell carrier because I had a great deal. I can't imagine, short of supporting terrorists or enemy states, that I'd go though the hassle or expense of changing providers. All power to you.

You are not supporting the company, you are supporting the local owner of the franchise and local employee's. If you are boycotting them, you are penalizing the local owner and employees.

That seems to be the point you are missing to me anyway. Big companies of this type of work model will not go under because of boycotting ever. We are talking billions of dollars. But for the local owner and employees, you are talking their very livelyhood. simple as that. You are simply blaming and affecting the wrong people, which is the same theory as wipe out a whole town because you found one of the founders speaking against the crown, were in it like King George use to do.

Guess we have not evolved in that area to much after all ;-}

Honestly, most people don't care. They don't care where their stuff came from as long as it is cheap. I buy American when I can but at the same time I will not pay a premium for things because they were produced by union labor. I should not have to subsidize union (mis)management with my money. If you really want to stand up for the American workers then make sure that the worker has the right to decide if he wants to be in a union or not. For example would you buy anything made by the boilermakers union after reading this? http://sweetness-light.com/archive/boilermakers-union-bosses-lavish-pay-perks Why should I subsidize a union president who makes $600K a year, has private planes, and hires his whole family?

Look at how the people in the US vote and the apathy with politics in general. We voted for this! This is what we want. Rhode Islanders especially. For the second year in a row we ranked dead last in business competitiveness. http://www.cnbc.com/id/46413845/ That is what the people of RI want. How do I know? Because we elect the same people over and over and over.

I thought this was a joke...then I open my old IBEW contract and there it was!
A UNION STEWARD’S PRAYER
Grant me, Oh Lord,
the genius to explain
to my brothers and sisters
the policies and plans
of our great union
even though no one explains them to me.
Give me the understanding
that I may forgive the apathetic member,
curb the overly ambitious member,
and accept the views of the member
who does nothing until I have done something...
and then tells me
what I should have done
and how I should have done it.
Oh Lord, make me formidable in debate,
logical in argument
and fearless in confrontation.
Let me be a lawyer,
actor,
mathematician,
sage,
philosopher,
sociologist,
and economist;
pleasing, cajoling, threatening, and belaboring
so that I make the best of a good case
and a good case from no case at all.
Teach me, Oh Lord,
to stand at all times with both feet firmly on the ground ….
Even when I don’t have a leg to stand on.

Jack a lot of BP stations closed when BP could not supply them with gas of a month. Bp's local ditributor up and quit and it took them a month to get a new one and the New England BP stations had to go a month with no gas and they could not buy from another distributor because that would violate their contract and void their lease with BP.

Well that also happened robert, I think it was stossel, did a report, though I am not sure, he was in southern states where a lot of the BP station are, and people were foolishly blaming them. In anycase if it affect just one small business, it is wrong in my opinion. jobs are jobs. You work for profit, not to follow the beliefs of the owner in any business.

Also there are gays that work at chick a fil, as well. As we know you can not discriminate on hiring by race creed color sexual orientation religion which you cannot even have on the application, etc. It is against the law. Though some companies have at times violated it they get sued and lose almost everytime so that system works.

I just think it is so wrong to boycott. We have the right to protest company's who we disapprove of, for what ever reason. I think it crosses the line when you are trying to shut them down.

These politicians in these cities and down in washington like Pelosi who supports the mayors she said the other day are way way over the line, in advocating tolitarian and draconian measures against this business. They know they would lose in court, but do this public BS in order to hurt the company and in the end hurt the economy and average workers, to do nothing more than pander to the idiots who would take away the free speech of anyone they disagree with, by pushing them into bankruptcy if possible.

Same with these constant attacks against companies that advertise in area's of media.

Robert do we know why the distributer quit? I wonder about why he did that and his reasons. just curious as I had not heard that story.

My son works for a BP station that is how I found out about the distributor I was talking to the owner and all he said was they couldn't get gas and BP would not let them buy any from an independant distributor.

Thats a shame it happened robert. Not that there is going to be a reason for the distributer to not deliver that would be acceptable to an owner, but that the BP company would not allow a waiver for the month from another distributer.

But I stand by my no boycotting in this day and age do to some social or political issue. It is just wrong to me, business are so intertwined now you could not hurt the main company's if you want to.

WOW got your panties in a twist though didn't it LOL

Those of us who dont wear underwear NEVER get our panties in a twist.

As you can see below, it's best just to flag his comments as inappropriate and move on.

Well Ray, it seems like you might have the same sexual obsession as NKGOP, but according to Wikipedia, here is the definition of teabagger:

•teabagger - a person who protests President Obama's tax policies and stimulus package, often through local demonstrations known as "Tea Party" protests (in allusion to the Boston Tea Party of 1773

You might want to stop putting words in a sexual context and use some common sense.

You're right ray I actually found reference to that. But just because they unknowingly used the term doesnt make what the left did right. <does that make sense? lol

NKGOP - "doesnt make what the left did right"

If I declare myself to be a squirrel, and I'm unaware that there is a small rodent named squirrel, and people say 'that guy says he's a squirrel' - It's my fault for being ignorant, not their fault for indicating my ignorance.

Ray, actually the first person to use the term "Teabagger" was Rachel Maddow. The Tea Party never used that term to describe themselves... there are a lot of stories out there saying they did but if snopes or factcheck ever did a story on them they would find them incorrect.

One Tea Party group sent tea bags to elected officials they disagreed with. So she, tongue in cheek, called them "Teabaggers" over and over again.

A good video on the subject, by a liberal no less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gsJrgwxQDo

Kind of like the right-wing American taliban taking ovet the Republicans and they no guts to stand up to them?? Is that what you are talking about?

I agree Coventry, sure as hell could not hurt to shut them down. They do nothing till the last week befor each recess anyway.

On the other thing, all you are doing is feeding in to the delusion of the "it". I know it is hard not to do that at times, but that is the goal of these idiots, to antaganize and get a responce that has nothing to do with the article, or to just harrass for some sick injoyment in their own twisted mind.

Elizabeth BristolRI02809 knows full well what the term he keeps using agenst the tea party means. He is using it as an inflammatory statment. Every time he posts using this term it should be deleated it is no different then using the N-word when talking about a racial issue.

Wow,I was flagged?

Mr. Sousa-Making inflamatory comments adds nothing to the conversation. As an elected official and candidate for political office, you should show more class and maturity. You might want to do some research on the internet as to the meaning of the word teabagger. For your edification, here they are:

1. One who carries large bags of packaged tea for shipment
2. An upper class participant in motor racing

Let's hope that you do not begin using sexually explicit terms on this blog, such as previous posters did-it is surely not becoming, and certainly inappropriate behavior by an elected official such as yourself.

BristolRI02809 Even though I have no use for the Tea Party and agree with most of your comments you know full well what the term you have been using means that is why you are using it. Even if you didn't at first you do now. If you want anybody to take you seriously you need to stop the school yard tactics.

You are a kitty cat ( "I'm flagging you") You must have been the guy that cried to the teacher everytime someone slapped you around.

guys guys... I think the term you're looking for is Tea-billies. Teaaaaaa-billies.

Jack we had that with Ross Perot, probably the only time in our lifetimes when a 3rd presidential choice could almost win. I'm not sure he would have been the best politician but he is a open minded guy who really wanted to secure our financial future. He was against the first gulf war, felt as though we were willing lackeys for "The Emir of Kuwait"!
CHECK IT OUT and look how YOUNG Bill Clinton was!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tLP4j2NyEE

It can be mathematically proven (and has) that a first past the post voting system will inevitably lead to a two-party system. I would love a viable third party candidate but we're stuck with lesser of two evils until we use a different voting model.

I agree Perot was a good try at it. The guy sadly was also a great predictor of the sucking sound of NAFTA among other things. There was just to much underhandedness going on at the time, when he started to become an actual threat to the 2 party system.

Though I agree some of his policies were suspect and against some of my beliefs, he had enough that I voted for him in the end. Most of his problems I think were ue to the facts of not understanding the political machines at the time, and that both party's worked against any kind of 3rd party canidate, and that still exist today.

Last elected 3rd party was "Teddy Rosevelt" moose party. Do think there is more going on in this country with the election of many new faces, especially the so called Tea Party canidates, that shows more and more the people realize that, the main problem is in congress itself. That true change wil only come, not with false compromise, but total change of the make up of congress, back to traditional values of government of the people by the people.

So many in both party's have lost their minds in my opinion anyway. This blind following by so many also must stop, it has corrupted what the founders created and is a discrace to the meaning of freedom in my opinion.

Nurburg, I tend to agree but see no other system other than what we have in this Republic now. It is more of the system is broke with the money involved now, so that the average guy cannot run Statewide or Nationally.

The citizens united was bad for everyone in my opinion. It merely loaded both sides with even more involvement of money, rather than quality of canidates.

I do like a lot of the Tea Party platform though. Smaller government to me is what the founders wanted. The intrusion of government now is larger than ever before and is bording on totitarianism in many cases. I do have faith this will be beat back though.

ha ha ha ha ha Oh, I can't wait. How long will it take for this miracle ? Where do you store that crystal ball? Good evening.

I agree Joe that may happen, (I know I am still pessimistic ;-}). But congress must get organized and back to the real reasons it is there. To do the peoples will period.
So many think that there must be compromise in congress.

That may be true on some issues, but on many issues, there must be a "stand your ground" in my opinion. Smaller Federal Government and staying the heck out of social issues that are reservsed for the States. That was the reason the founders put in, those powers not enumerated to the Fed are reserved to the States and that is more powerful than most know.

Many States are finally realizing this right now. Main point being the though we have 3 branches of Government, in the end it is the Republic that is the final arbitator of the Federal Government and decides the fate of the country.

Dude get off the Kool-aid please, It's not JUST a President what about the right-wing nitwits in congress?? You think they want you to have freedom??? Pleeeease they want to tell you what god to believe in, the big bad wolf is going to take your guns , the rich will help you get a job(Wal-mart) blah blah You must still believe in Santa Clause!!!!!

Bristol,
Your use of the work TeaBagger regardless of the wiki definition you hold so dear to the black hole in your chest was used in a derogatory context. We all understand you have no evidential standing for the information you put forth as fact and have to resort is belittling all those who disagree with your warped position..
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Maybe sprinkle some Pixy Dust for the Hope tour and all will be fine.....
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I feel sorry for you there in your own little world.

Once again "coventry voter", the term teabagger has been used by every mainstream media outlet in this country, from the New York Times to the Wall Street Journal to the Washington Post, and thousands in between. For some reason, you and your feloow republican/teabaggers take the term and put it in a sexual content, and then splash those sexual references all over this blog. What's the matter "coventry voter"-Do you have some kind of sexual frustration that manifests itself by posting graphic descriptions of sexual acts on the internet? If that is the case, there are many pornographic sites that you can visit. In the meantime, maybe you and your fellow republican/teabaggers can keep this site clean.

BristolRI02809

I don't understand why you cant grasp this simple concept.
The term, "teabagger / teabagging" in the sexual context pre-dates it's adoption by the modern tea party, and was a fairly well known, if not exactly common, term. The fact that the (mostly conservative) makeup of the tea party wasn't familiar with the term when they started applying it to themselves is no bodies fault but the tea party, and maybe the media who use the irony for ratings.

Ok Ray-Here's your quote, word for word:

"The fact that the (mostly conservative) makeup of the tea party wasn't familiar with the term when they started applying it to themselves is no bodies fault but the tea party."

Key term there Ray- 'APPLYING IT TO THEMSELVES" The teabaggers gave themselves their name, and now they don't want to use it. Typical republican/teabagger flip-flopping.

SAN JOSE, April 15, 2012 — On April 14, 2012, The Norcal (Northern California) Tea Party began a two-week bus tour up and down the state. Over 20 rallies in 14 days are taking place. Rise Up Bus Tour."

True and it is why he is looked at like Carter who was so busy trying to get in the history books for mideast peace, which failed in my opinion. He totally forgot what country he was resident of, with no domestic policy at all.

Problem is Romney is a butt clown who can't get anything right just running, He would be worse than Bush who as we all know drove us down this road!!!

Right-wing = American Taliban.... Think about wiz kid from tiverton!

Joe what you are forgetting is that it was not Democratic spending but a conservative Republican administration that accrued this massive debt by cutting taxes and starting two unfunded wars. The democrats left Bush with a budget surplus. Every time we have had a major economic collapse in this country the conservatives have been at the helm. You want to put the fox back guarding the hen house what makes you think they can do any better this time then they did the last time.

Robert you cant count the SS. surplus as a budget surplus .
Clinton spent the SS surplus and left IOU's

NKGOP Watch Any Republicans moving to the center and trying to build a center coalition will soon become a target for the Tea Party they have done it numerus times they don't want centrist politicians they only want the extreame right.

Here it is NKGOP-Fresh off the newswire:

President Barack Obama was favored by at least 50 percent of likely voters in the key battleground states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, a poll released Wednesday shows.

Obama had a lead of 11 percentage points, 53 percent to 42 percent, over presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney in Pennsylvania. The president leads his GOP challenger by a margin of 51 percent to 45 percent in Florida and 50 percent to 44 percent in Ohio in the random telephone poll conducted July 24 to 30 by Quinnipiac University, CBS News and the New York Times. It was the first measure of likely voters in the crucial swing states.

"If today were Nov. 6, President Barack Obama would sweep the key swing states," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "The president is running better in the key swing states than he is nationally."

No candidate has captured the White House without winning at least two of the states since John F. Kennedy in 1960.

Make sure you share these poll numbers with your fellow republican/teabaggers at your next NKGOP meeting, but be sure to keep them all on suicide watch-haha.

Actually I will be in the near future. Though I suspect the "internet trolls" will ruin it to the point, I will be closing comments on any blogs I write at every turn no matter what the subject is shamefully.

I rest my case Elizabeth, with "BristolRI02809", who violates TOS constantly any has even posted personal home addresses of posters in violation of TOS, in his constant harrassment that are by definition, make him an "Internet troll" also a violation of TOS.

Great comeback Jack, but just one problem-your last response was a rambling, incoherent, run-on sentence. Do you really think you're going to be able to advance your republican/teabagger cause when the readers cannot understand your post?

On the good side however, you make a great case for voting against the tea party!

These you men and patriots (NKGOP,Joe,Jack) really don't want to blog. They know that there won't be anyone one reading them. Instead, they like to get aboard someone else's blog and blab the same ole stuff over and over. They enjoy name calling and bashing. Is there really a Mark Curtis? He started this "blog" and then never once responded ( or did I miss that)?

Well "English First" Moniker equals somthing conservatives advocate and support, so thanks.

If you review the post, you will find 90% of the name calling is done by a few posters. They also happen to be the one pushing the most liberal ideology and rarely addressing the other posters points, except with; well name calling and personal attacks. So you assumptions are incorrect.

Since when is dicussing and issue blabbering? To Mark, how about you go to the web site link and ask him?

Yes I served my Country. Do military VETS leave a bad taste in your mouth? I have noticed on here anyway a lot of them use their real names, unlike the ones who name call all day and do personal attacks, but then thats your only game. Oh also forgot about the race baiting which is not going to work this time around.

Googler "Lloyd Marcus" and go to his web site to ask him about tea party racist. It may enlighten you to read his life story. But I doubt your will naturally.

"English First"-Evidently you didn't get the memo-Jack Baillargeron is the King/Dictator/Moderator of the Patch, and nobody is allowed to post anything contrary to his republican/teabagger beliefs.

But fear not "English First", if you decide to cross over to the dark side and join the teabaggers, Jack and his merry band of fools will welcome you with open arms.

One other requirement to get on Jack's good side, you must have served in the military to join his inner circle (honorable or dishonorable discharge ok), so get over to your local recruiting office and sign up!

BristolRI02890; Usual “internet troll” lies and lack of credibility. Obvious military hater also in my opinion. same old same old

Larry Welsh I post the truth as I , and many others see it. It's not arrogance or gloating . People all over the Country see that Congress and the President are not fixing the problems or changing their ways. The Tea Party is a means to fix a broken system . To bad if it cuts your umbilical cord.

Just curious Larry, seriously on this.
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"I believe you want to 'fix the problem', and that problem is Obama the man much more than Obama's policies."

How do you seperate the policies from the individual person or is that a mistake? Even to me it makes no sense and we all know I don't have much ;-}.

When did you hear me say my man is Mitt ?

Ever wonder why know one really listens to you? Romney will win LOL LOL

Your dealing with something that has a thick and empty head "bristol", He will never get it . Like dealing with the joker from the Batman!

To bad the poll was likely voters and not actual voters.

The real problem with that Janet, and I do not know if the link addresses this, is that the Contract for the loan was changed from the government normal mandate that taxpayers be paid back first, to the private investors being paid back first, hense the main reason, the taxpayers are stuck with the bill.

Forgot that the investors would not invest, with out that normat government clause being changed, as the new the risk was to high, but gaurenteed money return, well you now.

Yea that one I remember, also how the economic advisors in Bush and Obama administrations said it would be bankrupt by Sept. which it was. Bush fortunatly a good thing he did would not sign off but, Obama changed the contract to the investors first and then signed off against some of his advisors concerns.

This s yet another reason to keep government out of private enterprise, if it was viable business model it does not need taxpayer money period.

Joe do you ride an American Harley or do you prefer a rice rocket?? Would you rather ride American or Rice is my ?????

Sooooo true , But it is the easy way to teach the right -wing taliban fools who smoke the Rush dust some reality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

You put up a video of a cartoon, I'll put up a video with real people in it.

Wow John, you and Joe Sousa remind me of Neal and Bob !!

The enormous amount of misinformation that is taken for truth by Fox audiences: the belief that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and that he was in on 9/11, the belief that climate change isn't real and/or man-made, the belief that Barack Obama is Muslim and wasn't born in the United States, the insistence that all Arabs are Muslim and all Muslims are terrorists, the inexplicable perceptions that immigrants are both too lazy to work and are about to steal your job. All of these claims are demonstrably false, yet Fox News viewers will maintain their veracity with incredible zeal. Why? Is it simply that we have lost our respect for knowledge? I have noticed that the Fox viewership seems to be marked by a sort of collective personality disorder whereby the viewer feels almost as though they've been let into a secret society. Something about their affiliation with the network makes them feel privileged and this affinity is likely what drives the viewers to defend the network so vehemently. They seem to identify with it at a core level, because it tells them they are special and privy to something the rest of us don't have. It's akin to the loyalty one feels by being let into a private club or a gang.

. That effect is also likely to make the propaganda more powerful, because it goes mostly unquestioned. When a person has accessed a truth, they are not threatened by the opposing views of others. This reality reveals the righteous indignation of people like Gretchen Carlson, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity as a symptom of untruth. These individuals are hostile and angry precisely because they don't feel confident in their own veracity. And in general, the more someone is losing their temper in a debate and the more intolerant they are of listening to others, the more you can be certain they do not know what they're talking about. Fox audiences, birthers and Tea Partiers often defend their arguments by pointing to the fact that a lot of people share the same perceptions. This is a reasonable point to the extent that Murdoch's News Corporation reaches a far larger audience than any other single media outlet. But, the fact that a lot of people believe something is not necessarily a sign that it's true; it's just a sign that it's been effectively marketed. As honest, fair and truly intellectual debate degrades before the eyes of the global media audience, the quality of American democracy degrades along with it.

Robert E, I'm disappointed in you.

ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, New York Times, MSNBC, ect... all do the same thing but for the left.

The funny thing is, that list you came up is mostly propaganda from your side. For instance, I've never heard a Conservative say, "Immigrants are lazy"... as a matter of fact, I rarely hear Conservatives talk about Immigrants at all. Illegal Immigrants, on the other hand, are a different story. Regardless, for any immigrant, legal or illegal I've never heard anyone say that they were lazy.

But that's what you guys do, you fabricate Conservative stances and then rail against those. Probably because you know that if you actually try to debate honestly, you wouldn't do so well.

It's also why the majority of "trolls" on the patch and other news/political sites are of the liberal variety. We have those on the Conservative side (Joe S. here for instance), that's true. But what I see, on the Patch specifically, are Conservatives overwhelmingly giving an opinion, why that have that opinion and often providing citations where as for the liberals who post here it's only poking fun at those conservative posters and saying "Teabagger" or "Fox News" over and over again.

Not to mention that your little list leaves out a lot of facts. Like, EVERYONE though Saddam had WMDs. In an interview he gave after he was captured, he said he did that on purpose because of Iran. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/07/02/fbi.saddam.hussein.interview/index.html

Thought not though... wish there was an edit button.

No need to worry about editors, bryan there are a few here who will endlessly edit, though never address the post in any other way. Just saying lol

You can however delete it for some time well on logged into the page and correct it by copy and paste into word and then repost it.. You can also do the same from you profile, clicking on comments in it.

Janet loves law suits she is suing almost everybody in the town of tiverton. How is that working out for you Janet. Maybe you should file a suit against Fox New for lying to you all these years.

No, frankly I don't get your point. Is that intended to be a threat?

Your a funny guy, It's like saying I can beat your Corvette with a toyota...I'm guessing you drive a toyota because all right wingers are anti-American car people

Janet, the urbandictionary site catalogs slang, social phrases, and social idioms. Please check an English dictionary, grammar guide, or google, "moot" is the correct usage. Even the urbandictionary list the correct usage as "moot point"

Hay Janet how is your lawsuit against everybody going? Isn't this about the time you go into one of yout incoherant rants and get the thred shut down. As fo that 6.2 trillion in new republican debt you can't block everythig the president tries to do and then claim it doesn't work. The republicans got us in thsi mess and then dumped it on Obama and tied his hands andthen keep yelling he isn't doing anythig about it.

@Robert E....Your lawsuit question/comment to Janet is something I have been wondering about since 09/07/2011 at 1:22 pm when she stated to me "I am going to see to it that you are publically identified, and I see slander, libel and defamation of my character in your very near future. See you in court. You are being sued." I'm still waiting...

Ryanthegirl She is a certifiable lunatic she has threatened to sue half the Town of Tiverton. I am surprised she has managed to hold it together for this long by now she has usally broken into crazy incoherant rants that lead to the thread being shut down. in a post below she asks me for my address and phone number so she can call me. She must think I am her shrink or something. Well if you ever hear from the court let us know.
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Amen!

so true Joe so true.

Sorry to burst your bubbles Jack and Joe, but read this:

President Barack Obama was favored by at least 50 percent of likely voters in the key battleground states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, a poll released Wednesday shows.

Obama had a lead of 11 percentage points, 53 percent to 42 percent, over presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney in Pennsylvania. The president leads his GOP challenger by a margin of 51 percent to 45 percent in Florida and 50 percent to 44 percent in Ohio in the random telephone poll conducted July 24 to 30 by Quinnipiac University, CBS News and the New York Times. It was the first measure of likely voters in the crucial swing states.

"If today were Nov. 6, President Barack Obama would sweep the key swing states," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "The president is running better in the key swing states than he is nationally."

No candidate has captured the White House without winning at least two of the states since John F. Kennedy in 1960.

Soon we'll have the response from the two teabaggers Jack and Joe-"The poll was flawed", or some other teabagger propaganda.

Those who go by polls, live in a fools paridise. Especially a presidential poll, no matter what biased side does them. Very few polls reflect reality. Only the vote does that.

Joe how can you be free thinkers when your just parrots for fon news.

Blankets statement like that robert are never true. Most people, at least the ones I know watch and listen to many mediums, for instance; I watch maddow, mathews, shultz no, he is an idiot. I watch fox, cnn, etc. Then I research what they say, some is true, some is disingenuous, mistated, or taken out of context by all of them.

However the fact that always seems to be missing when these statements are made is that these people on those shows, are not news anchors, they are anlist and pudits, discussing the news. Many are entertainers, I laugh how people use the guys on the comedy channel or HBO as their news sources lol.

Wnt real news, watch it and verify, one of the benifits of technology today to be able to do it. this is not the 60's where we depended on the integrity of the broadcasters.

"Free thinkers" like Joe Sousa, Jack Baillergeron, and Janet Sroczynski-not exactly Harvard professor or Nobel Prize candidates there. But then again, when that's the type of "free thinkers" the tea party has to offer, the country can sleep well tonight knowing these teabageers are nothing more than political gadflies. Good for a little bit of humor, but not much else.

I can't remember the last time I watched Fox News. I read the news on line from multiple sources. I get to see and learn more that way . I'm a political junky . No sports or entertainment news, Just the facts.

Joe you forgot to include "and the TCC".

Jim L,
If you are getting emails updates you don't want, there's an opt out link at the bottom.

If there were a Chick-fil-A in RI, i would eat there on a weekly basis. You nor does anyone have the right to tell me how to think on any issue. Frankly, i could not care less if gays or lesbians get married, make out or have sex in the street. For you to protest because that is how the C.O.O. feels is anti free speech and thought. I thought liberals were supposed to be inclusive and understanding. Apparently you are inclusive and understanding provided they have the same beliefs as you. Jokes and frauds...all of you.

Tired of NK Antics

Wow, you've got a few things completely wrong.

Everyone has the right to tell you how to think on any issue, that's their First Amendment right. They have no right to force you to listen, or to force you to think that way, but they have the right to say how they would like you to think. (see: television, religion, newspapers, schools, etc)

To protest because you do not like what someone else says is NOT anti free speech or anti thought. People have as much right to air their response to someone else's views , as that other person had the right to air their views in the first place.

Liberals, and conservatives too for that matter, should be inclusive and understanding. Understanding though, does not necessarily mean accepting or agreeing with other viewpoints

Kerri you've missed the point this is the United States and the mayor of a city or the government can not tell a buisness they cannot locate in their city even if they do support a hate group. If I want to open KKKleaners "We get your sheets sparkling white" that ia my right under the Constitution of the United States. Even hate groups are protected. Just to make things clear I do not support Chic-fil-a or their views but I do support the Constitution.

Robert, I agree with you. A mayor cannot and should not try to arbitrarily decide who may and may not do business within a city.

To clarify, however, I didn't "miss" the point, I made a point to correct something that Mark Curtis had said in his original message. He stated that that there was discord over this topic because the restaurant owner "opposes gay marriage". *My* point, the only reason I decided to comment here, is that his statement is incorrect. The discord is over the support of hate groups by this company, not the lack of support for gay marriage. That's a big difference. :-)

Kerri, I have no problem with people protesting outside the Cathy house or any of his reasturants for that matter. I do have a problem with people thinking they are going to hurt the company by forcing a franchise owner and their employees out in the street.

Boycotting any company that operates on the bussiness model of a franchise system only hurts you neighborhood owner and employees that live next door to you. You will never hurt a massive company like this, that employs over 60,000 worker and indirectly tens of 1,000's of distributer and other jobs.

Even if the owner gives money to so called hate groups, politicians, caharities or religious groups you do not like; it has nothing to do with the franchise owner or the employees, who are taking the front line abuse on this, for no other reason then they are supporting their family or self. That is wrong in my opinion, no matter what company it is or what the owners beliefs or actions are.

We are free to shop and buy what we want, where we want. It should not be an organized mob to put it out of business in my opinion. Government has no right to decide whether they can build or not build based on moral or social issues either. Least thats how I see it ;-}.

If there were a franchise in RI I would gladly by a $4 sandwich weekly to support them and their beliefs. They can fund whoever they want with their profits. It does not bother me in the least and I have no right to insist they change. If you, trophies for all, no score-keeping for the kids, politically correct liberals don't like their beliefs, don't buy their product. Pretty simple huh? But please stop trying to force others into your twisted, mis-guided belief structure.

Seriously, there are nutbag internet-tough-guys on both sides of this discussion. Yeesh.

Alan West, I love that guy ;-}. But I doubt he is on the list anyway.

Thats usually where the brain-washing starts, Just like the KKK

Wanna put a grand on it ?? place the bet!!!

I would say Joe, Setting back our intelligences operations world wide. Hard to get intelligence when we this administration leaks like a swiss cheese dike. Good on posting facts there Joe as Usual ;-}

Dear Janet Elaine:

I have been reading your myriad posts on Patch and have concluded there are 3 things of which you seem to be fond:

1) Harassing people who do not agree with you.

2) Posting links that support your viewpoint, no matter how questionable and biased the link source may be. For example, you posted an article on taxes taken from www.rushlimbaugh.com. C'mon, Janet, you can do better than that. What would you say if someone posted a counterpoint to your tax argument taken from www.pfaw.org? You'd have a glowing red conniption, that's what you'd do.

3) You seem to be most fond of spending every waking hour posting on most of the Patch-es in this region and, apparently, a few that are quite far away.

Here are two links for you and others to consider:

Link 1) The full Janet oeuvre can be seen in this link:

http://www.google.com/#q=Janet+Sroczynski+patch&hl=en&prmd=imvnso&ei=oAodUIHRC4fi2QXit4CQDg&start=20&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=a2397979472d9e8e&biw=1152&bih=749

Look at all the towns you've "visited"! I have to ask, what did the poor people in Shakopee, Minn. do to deserve you sticking your nose in their business? Isn't it bad enough that someone from South Easton wanders all over the Southern New England Patch-es rather than focus on the burning issues in her home town?

Link 2) http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gadfly -- Please check out the second definition, in particular.

Enjoy your weekend.

Janet you are a crazy lady who has already threatened to sue me why would i give you my name and address. You and people like you is I don't post under my full name I would be affraid you would try to burn down my house or threaten my family I have already seen the way you have threatened yours. Besides there is nothing in your lumatic rantings that I an interested in hearing. Just post your phone number and if I need any information I will give you a call.

Asking for public information such as address and phone numbers is a standard way other bloggers try to get only their point across and not allow other opinions.You'll note that the people who request phone numbers and addresses don't put their own on any site so everyone can see them . They usually respond with everyone knows who I am and can call me at home .

Making a request for an address and telephone number on any site can lead to identity theft, scam email, fake lottery winnings , money orders, and others can call you pretend to be from your bank or credit card company.

There are very few governmental regulations of Internet content. The First Amendment protects unfettered speech.

Bill:

I don't always agree with your point of view, but you couldn't be more correct in this instance: Janet is a bully and is trying to disallow others' opinions. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Pseudonymous. Using a pseudonym has been one of the great benefits of the Internet, because it has enabled people to express themselves freely—they may be in physical danger, looking for help, or have a condition they don’t want people to know about. People in these circumstances may need a consistent identity, but one that is not linked to their offline self.
Pseudonyms are not new to the computer age. Authors use them all the time. Our founding fathers used them. Anonymous and pseudonymous speech have been part of democratic society since its beginning. What is new is that more and more strangers, whom we have never seen and never spoken to, know our names. What is new is that a name, with just a few minor pieces of information (birthdate, friends names, employer, industry, town…) can in a few seconds provide thousands of personal details about who you are and where you live.
Behind every pseudonym is a real person. Deny the pseudonym and you deny the person.

"Protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical, minority views . . . Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. . . . It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights, and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation . . . at the hand of an intolerant society."
1995 Supreme Court ruling in McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission

Very true Robert, Very true. But there is also the flip side sadly of those who would spread hate and discontent in anonymous posting to only harass, be it on the internet or US mail, Phone calls etc. Sadly there is no clear cut answer, when dealing with humans as usual. But I do agree with the right of anyone to remain anonymous on here, but if they do vile personal attacks anonymously, I call them out on that point and tell them exactly what they are (Cowards Hiding Behind Anonymity). Least that’s my way of handling it at times. Same thing if they do use a real name also ;-}. We can only hope people would only say things they would say in person, but that sadly will never be the case with some.

I have never heard of this Janet poster; however the tactics she is using are repugnant in a civil discourse or debate. Threats of any kind are foolish and childish, on the internet in any case.

It also ruins any chance of people taking them seriously or credible in my opinion, even if I support some of their views. They only hurt the cause of their views when resorting to that type of tactics and lose the support of those who may share their views. Though that is their right, it is an exercise in futility in my opinion and makes no reasonable sense.

As hard as it is sometimes, it is better to ignore than feed, and it is hard I know ;-}.

Jack
Janet is a formor Tiverton resident who pops up once in a while she usally ends up going into an incoherant rant when you don't agree with her and then threatens to sue you. She even threatend to sue the Tiverton patch and editor for modarating her. Every thread I have seen her post on ends up getting shut down because of her rants. On another note what gets me on both sides are the people who call out anonymous posters they do not agree with but never call out those that take their side for posting under a pseudonym. You and I don't always agree but you seem to stand up with someone who doesnt agree with you when they are in the right.

I went back and rea many of her post yesturday all oer the net, and that is why I said she is merely hurting what ever cause she has politicly or otherwise, by her type of post. Disagreement is one thing, but a lot of her post are filled with threats of suing, berating posters, rather than debate. Heated debate gets the best of everyone, and no matter what side, we should all try to be considerate wiht out the personal attacks, because in the end we all attack back at one time or another, defeating the whole purpose of debating.

I stick up for anyone who is picked on with personal attacks, because, well it is wrong and usually the last vestage of the person who has lost the debate.

Not fond of statictics either, to easy to twist lol.

The suing the patch is a funny one I had not heard lol. It is a private company and therefore has every right to limit free speech, which they do though Terms of Service or (TOS) the internet may be technicly free but web sites or blogs are not free speech zones, even the ones that say they are lol.

> I will be so pleased to share your comments with many *friends of the GOP*...

Drown me! Roast me! Hang me! Do whatever you please! Only please, Janet, please don't throw me into the briar patch. Well, you can even do that, but PLEASE don't share my comments with your many "*friends of the GOP*"

OH NOOOO! ANYTHING BUT THAT!

<snicker>

Sorry, it's just NOT $18 trillion in NEW debt all in the past 4 years

http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/may/04/chain-email/obama-has-added-more-national-debt-previous-43-pre/

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/aug/01/crossroads-gps/crossroads-gps-pins-4-billion-day-debt-obama/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/ezra-klein-doing-the-math-on-obamas-deficits/2012/01/31/gIQAnRs7fQ_story.html

http://www.politifact.com/subjects/federal-budget/

I agree with you on deficit spending, if you dont have it, don't spend it. I was replying to Janet's absurd claims: when the national debt clock has the debt at 15 trillion and she claims that 18 trillion has been added in one term, it's just plain ridiculous.

I think what it'll take is more than just new blood, what's needed is a new system. Take the electoral college for instance, a system designed so votes could be tallied and a result could be brought to the capital on horseback, When we know the exact popular vote to the person, within an hour after the polls close, it seems silly to keep a system that allows candidates to focus on states because of a statistically generated number based on 10 year old census results. And then theres the ridiculous "decorum" in the house and senate with "The floor recognizes the honorable gentleman from YaddaYadda" and "My honorable friend from the great state of such and such" .. heck conversations happen faster and in a more organized manner even on these Patch message boards. It's the 21'st century, it would be nice if they noticed that. Oh and dont even get me started on the congressional voting methods....

I fully support the electoral collge model, it may not be perfect but it is sound reasoning. The popular vote is by definition nothing more than MOB rule. The founders were totally against pure Democracy for that reason.

It would also allow for NY, CA, to always elect the president as the most populas states. Voter apathy in the rest of the states would create a total melt down of the system in my opinion. Not to mention foster a revolution eventialy as always happens in every pure democracy in history. none have ever survived more than a 100 years. Which is why we are a "Representative Republic".

Other than that, I agree with the rest of your post and no I will not start on congress, it is there is way to much idiocy in congress, it would talk years to discuss what is wrong there on both sides ;-}.

Oh the house back anology is not why we have it by the way ;-}. It is called minority rights of the States.

Though I take polls with a grain of salt. That one does not surprise me, having read the article lol.

Dear John:

>> 7:27 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012 - I'll place the bet and raize yoo 10 Grand.

>> 7:37 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012 - SO: "Realistic Voter": NOW WHAT..???

You gave Realistic Voter 10 minutes to respond to your bet? Did you think his lack of response means that you're somehow "right"? Please consider that it also might mean Realistic Voter doesn't live at his/her computer the way you apparently do..

If either of you want to bet on the outcome of the election, it might be easier if you both go here:

http://record.bettingpartners.com/_B5L8dAoYnv1kNWoNHzv2e2Nd7ZgqdRLk/2/

Readers of this thread may be interested to note that these professional oddsmakers are currently favoring Obama to win the election. If you're a risk-taker or think you know more than the bookies, betting on Romney will get you odds of 1.4 to 1.

If you two insist on betting each other directly, I hereby volunteer to hold the money until November 7, 2012. It's the Internet, you can trust me... ;-)

****

P.S. John, if you win the bet, please consider making an investment in a spell checker. It's 'drivel', not 'drival' as you've written in two antagonistic posts above. Because I'm a fundamentally kind-hearted person, I'll just assume you were attempting to be cute by misspelling "raise" and "you".

P.P.S. I am not endorsing illegal gambling, but I do think there's something to be learned from examining the positions taken by those who make their living taking bets.

Look at your post, You are what makes up the right-wing, Look at your spelling tea-party all the way. Sorry can't make a bet with someone who lives in his parents basement ,has no money and a third grade education!

Realistic Voter posted this:"

"Look at your post, You are what makes up the right-wing, Look at your spelling tea-party all the way. Sorry can't make a bet with someone who lives in his parents basement ,has no money and a third grade education!".

All due respect for your opinions "Realistic Voter"....BUT I am over 70 years old and do not live in my parents basement. They passed over 30 years ago. I suggest you are probably having a grand old time raising hell on the internet as you see fit. My guess is your are an unemployed 19 year old....Just sayin'.
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Realistic voter:

While your thanks are appreciated, please don't assume I'm on your side just because I took John to task for his objectionable behavior.

If you have the temerity (a.k.a., "stones") to criticize someone else's spelling and education, I think you should make darn sure your own post is perfect before clicking the "Submit" button. Yours wasn't.

The use of commas, apostrophes, and capitalization is normally taught by the fifth grade so I'm having trouble deciding which proverb to whip out in this situation: 1) "glass houses" or 2) "pot, meet kettle".

Aw shoot, let's just go with #1: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/people_who_live_in_glass_houses_shouldn't_throw_stones

Didn't want you on my side, GODDDD go get some stress relief!!! You need it!! I'll even buy the batteries!!

You are quite welcome lary'& I am an expert of that and see no reason not to educate everyone on it.
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Jack:

The point was that "Realistic voter" was criticizing the spelling of another contributor without taking the time to ensure that his/her own post was free of errors. I wasn't criticizing his/her spelling, I was calling out his/her hypocrisy.

Do you really have a problem with that?

If yes, what exactly did you do in school all those times when you saw a bully picking on someone "who had dyslexia, or stuttered, etc."? Did you do nothing? What would you have done if you came across a stutterer insulting another stutterer? Would you have done nothing because you wouldn't have wanted to appear "holier than thou"?

If not, is your precious thread back in balance?

Maria Cabral ,Realistic voter is what we call an insult baiter. The purpose of the post was to get John angry . They hope to fire people up so they use profanity . Then they can make statements like "See those Tea Baggers are violent knuckle dragging KKK types. Don't waist your time with them .It's not worth it. They post anonymously and with several names . You seem to be a decent person ,don't get sucked in to their games.

Marai, calm down geeze. Obviously I was speaking in general terms. I just happen to have the opinion of being tired of any holier than thou people on the grammer spelling thing. It is petty period.

If I was talking about you, I would have said so. I did say I agree with your glass house did I not? Want to know what I did huh? I was the kid being bullied. When I got older I took vengence on them when they least expected it. That is one of my regrets in life in doing that. A choir guy I was not.

If it was 2 stutterers I would butt in and explain the lunacy of their actions on one another. Yes I have been the victim of the old no good deed goes unpunished also, thats life.

you said "I wasn't criticizing his/her spelling, I was calling out his/her hypocrisy."

I really could care less about RVoter. But you decided to go and do the same thing he did. "The use of commas, apostrophes, and capitalization is normally taught by the fifth grade". to include insinuating he never got higher than 5th grade.

"I wasn't criticizing his/her spelling, I was calling out his/her hypocrisy." really

As you can tell I am the last one who could criticize spelling or grammar.

But I can have an opinion on those that do. Now you know, take it or leave it is up to you. It would appear like Obama you won't admit you also were guilty of hypocrisy, which he is an expert at when it suits his re-election bid as usual and is the trade mark of his carreer. In my opinion.

>> Answer, Just don't include include those who have had their unemployment
>> benefits run out. Don't count those who have given up looking and refuse
>> to note those working temporary or part time jobs .

Joe:

Are you implying that the method of measuring unemployment used by the Department of Labor (Bureau of Labor Statistics) was changed subsequent to the start of the current administration?

The "Current Population Survey" (from which unemployment statistics are derived) was first implemented in 1940. The last major overhaul to the methodology was in 1994.

What exactly is the current administration doing -- in the area of reporting the unemployment rate -- that the prior two administrations did any differently?

"What exactly is the current administration doing -- in the area of reporting the unemployment rate"
Lying through their teeth. NObama 2012 !

That's a cute reply, but how about answering the question? Is this administration doing anything *differently* than the Bush and Clinton administrations before it in the area of unemployment reporting?

As you say, "Just the facts".

Bush and Clinton are not in office. This President is lying to cover up his inability to get America back on it's feet. Every policy he has enacted has hurt the economy. From energy to health care to allowing over a million illegal aliens to have work visa's . The man is wrecking our economy and the American way of life.

Joe:

Your original post said that, when reporting the unemployment rate, the current president is not including "those who have had their unemployment benefits run out" and "those who have given up looking", and "those working temporary or part time jobs."

I'll ask one more time: Is this any different than the method used by prior administrations for reporting the unemployment rate?

I'll give you a hint: The range of possible answers to my question includes "Yes" or "No".

Just the facts.

I didn't think you had a) an answer, or b) an interest in being fair minded.

In the highly unlikely event anyone is curious as to why I replied twice in a row without an answer from Joe S., it's because Joe deleted a post to which I was responding.

Fear not, Patch readers, I saved it:

>> 6:23 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

>> I don't play your answer game I have my own answers to the problem, so stuff it !
>> NObama 2012 We can do better.

I particularly liked the part where Joe told me to "stuff it !". So much for civilized and reasoned discourse based on the issues.

For everyone else's benefit, if you reply to Joe, please be sure to quote his more abusive sentences in your reply since Joe seems to feel free to revise history through some timely deletions.

In other news, Joe seems to believe that he (and his shameless sycophant yes-men) "got" me yesterday afternoon, but he didn't. Unfortunately for me, I chose to refer to an article that contained many quotes from many different viewpoints (i.e., balanced reporting). Joe and his yes-men (You are correct, Sir!") chose to harp on the portions of the article that supported their point of view, and ignore the portions that did not.

A lesson was learned by me. In the future, I'll just lie back and wait for Joe to post an unequivocal mistake as he did in the case above, and then I'll come back at him with facts, just as I did here.

It won't take long.

See you soon, Joe.

Just the facts, Mr. Stuff It.

Hey joe as long as your not answering questions have you come up with that list of do nothing teachers yet?

Here is the post that Joe deleated
Joe Sousa. also commented on The Sunday Political Brunch – July 29.

"I don't play your answer game I have my own answers to the problem, so stuff it ! NObama 2012 We can do better."

By the way Joe when you delete your posts you are a little too late we get them in an e-mail anyway.

Joe can't blame this on the President:
Senate Republicans block Democrats' jobs bill
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/19/us-usa-congress-jobs-idUSBRE86I1LJ20120719
It's the Republicans not the President who are responsible for the unemployment.

Well i guess we are screwed because the republicans did such a lousy job of getting a decent candidate to run. The field of players they had where an embarrassment to this country, just a bunch of far right nit-wits who would destroy this country!! Oh and why we are the subject of charisma ,Romney looks like he is a robot who can't stick his foot in his mouth enough

Joe,
Realistic Voter is one of those frustrated Dems. You know the type...He ran for office a few times, actually got in but was voted out because of his flawed ideas and insider ideals. He probably lost a few races to new comers and blamed the voter for having a lack of vision. Maybe he ran in a special election or 2 and lost in a massacre he predicted to go the other way.
Maybe he sits on the sidelines running other campaigns using negative blurbs to bolster his point but never really giving an opinion or posting facts about the success of those he supports, rather demeaning all those who disagree with him. I will bet he belongs to a public sector union maybe a firefighter or even a guy out on a disability. He's not just a Democrat he is entitled, he thinks we owe him a living, he thinks the rich should be taxed to the max because its "not fair" for some to own successful businesses while so many are on welfare.
He has a night school education paid for by the taxpayer, and has no concept what it like to meet a payroll or pay workers comp. He is a supporter of those very same people who have driven RI and many of its towns like Coventry into the ground.
Read his posts
When has he promoted Obama's platfoms? He hasnt he only puts down all those who disagree with his point of view

No Joe I would think Greece would be one of your favorite places!! In fact you and coventry voter would both love a vacation there.

It's awesome that Coventry voter is as we all know wrong on all the facts!! I am not Bill and I just figured who you think I am ......WRONG!!!!!! again LOL

Janet when will you learn that fox news is not a credible source you mightr as well qoute mother goose as a source. But then again mother goose is more credible.

And what does tennessee have to do with RI??? Please don't compare us with the south,

Larry I think your right in-breeding and all!! LOL

Robert E The national debt has made our dollar worth less and less. The shrinking purchasing power of the dollar Who's fault is that . Not the Tea Party's

Robert wasting your time with this brain washed fool!!

Reid is too busy helping communist Chinese solar firms represented by his son. He doesn't have enough time to work on the budget. http://twitchy.com/2012/08/05/report-harry-reid-helps-a-chinese-solar-firm-represented-by-his-son/